I’m trying to figure out how to preserve tweets and in doing so I figured I practice with a conversation I had with @BoraZ (Bora Zivkovic) that started with a joke and evolved into why scientists and students don’t embrace modern methods of collaboration. Here is my attempt to preserve the conversation:
Wikipedians would have fixed this in a nanosecond: bit.ly/yyD5Us
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ and there would have been an extensive talk page discussing the merits of the edits.
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant of course! And a long History page as well.
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ this conversation makes me wonder why science wikis fail.
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ and it seems like the real time collaboration could make a huge difference for peer review as well.
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant because Wikipedia exists. Just like ‘facebooks for scientists’ fail because there is Facebook. Matter of scale…
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ but even on wikipedia, most scientists don’t want to contribute to expand the knowledge base. just seems sad…
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant true, but rules/editors make it hard. As well as academic culture that frowns on it.
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant Michael Nielsen’s book has some good thoughts about causes, and how to change…
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ yea I’ve read his book. And now I’m trying to change the culture by training future scientists to not be afraid
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant Yes!
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ hilariously though, the students i’ve dealt with are opposing my training. collective sighs when i made them sign up for twitter.
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant undergrads in certain majors surprise me with their wish to become curmudgeons.
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ ahahaha! Physics students are trained to be cranky old men rather than high energy scientists! Now it all makes sense.
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant lots of kids go into professions according to outdated stereotypes of it. James Herriot vet med. Woodward-Bernstein journ.
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ true that! That’s why it was encouraging to see students at #scio12 and why I want to cultivate a culture change!
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant we are working on it, one kids at a time….
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ for sure. Hopefully more will be at #scio13. Maybe there should be a session on training the next generation? Count me in to moderate
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant put it on the wiki. There will also be a ScioTeen conf in NYCin 2013.
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
@BoraZ now that’s interesting…
— Anthony Salvagno (@Thescienceofant) February 7, 2012
@Thescienceofant the hashtag is #sciojr but stuff is already moving behind the scenes…
— Bora Zivkovic (@BoraZ) February 7, 2012
Not pretty, I know. Hopefully this will last longer than 48 hours though because I think this is a valuable conversation to document for future reference.